Ubi is removing gambling, sexual, & violent content in R6: Siege due to Asian release

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#1 Edited by Boycie (4256 posts) -

We are currently working towards preparing Rainbow Six Siege for expansion into Asian territories. As such, there will be some adjustments made to our maps and icons to ensure compliance. None of these changes will have an impact on gameplay. We have examples of these changes at the bottom of the blog.

A Single, Global Version

We want to explain why these changes are coming to the global version of the game, as opposed to branching and maintaining two parallel builds.

We want to streamline our production time to increase efficiency

By maintaining a single build, we are able to reduce the duplication of work on the development side. This will allow us to be more agile as a development team, and address issues more quickly.

We want to be future proof

Having the same people working on a singular global version of the game ensures we only need to do the work once. In addition, we can guarantee that any future changes are aligned with the global regulations we are working towards.

We will not change the core of the game

We have a commitment to ensure that the Rainbow Six Siege experience remains true to its roots. We are adjusting art and visuals, but are not compromising what makes Rainbow Six Siege the game you know today.

http://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-337194-16/aesthetic-changes-in-y3s4

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#2 Edited by NathanDrakeSwag (12507 posts) -

How is it possible to remove violence from a shooter?

Edit: Just clicked the link. That's lame. This is an M rated game for a reason. Not a fan of this kind of censorship at all.

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#3 Posted by DoroG1995 (2147 posts) -

It will get a pretty bad reaction.(Similar to MK vs DC where Midway toned down the violence)

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#4 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (5485 posts) -

Lmao. Seriously?

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#5 Edited by kenshiro3948 (173 posts) -

LOL Ubifail, I won't be supporting this trash. I'm so glad I never bought this game.

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#6 Posted by ZmanBarzel (1440 posts) -

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

How is it possible to remove violence from a shooter?

Edit: Just clicked the link. That's lame. This is an M rated game for a reason. Not a fan of this kind of censorship at all.

Yes, it's an M-rated game for a reason, and that M-rating pertains only to North America. The Asian markets Ubi is targeting? Completely different ratings boards for different cultures.

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#7 Posted by with_teeth26 (9016 posts) -

It seems really bizarre to me that in the modern world government policy can impacted by superstitions

bizarre and also dumb

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#8 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

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#9 Posted by kenshiro3948 (173 posts) -
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

This has nothing to do with leftists. It's just Ubifail being greedy and not wanting to dedicate resources to having two versions of the game.

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#10 Posted by HEATHEN75 (451 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

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#11 Posted by uninspiredcup (28602 posts) -

Isn't shooting someone inherently violent content. Unless they plan on replacing the guns with super-soakers. And even then, that pump action can be construed as sexual.

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#12 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@heathen75 said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

xD

@kenshiro3948 said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

This has nothing to do with leftists. It's just Ubifail being greedy and not wanting to dedicate resources to having two versions of the game.

Yea in this case, I was just venting at both sources of cencorship.

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#13 Posted by GarGx1 (10413 posts) -

That's just dumb, I guess they think the Asian market will make up the fall from users in the Western market.

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#14 Posted by BlackBalls (725 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

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#15 Posted by henrythefifth (1844 posts) -

This is a joke, right?

I mean you do know gambling, prostitution and violence are much more commonplace in Asia, than they are in Europe or USA.

Also, look at action movies imported from Asia. They've got much more violence, gambling and prostitution in them than most hollywood blockbusters put together! This means censureship of entertainment is much less severe there as it is in Europe/USA.

So, obvious joke topic.

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#18 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@blackballs said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

Not a trump supporter, just a centralist.

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#19 Posted by DaVillain- (32431 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@blackballs said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

Not a trump supporter, just a centralist.

Not everyone's a Trump supporter in the U.S guys. Stop accusing U.S GS users.

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#20 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@davillain- said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@blackballs said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

Not a trump supporter, just a centralist.

Not everyone's a Trump supporter in the U.S guys. Stop accusing U.S GS users.

To top it off I'm British :D

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#21 Posted by musicalmac (24963 posts) -

It’s funny about censorship, right? It seems like a good idea to some. Right up to the point where it infringes on your own life. Then it’s a problem.

Here’s an idea—let the free market of ideology pick and choose what stays and what goes. Learn to entertain ideas, understanding that you don’t need to embrace them.

It’s so simple.

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#22 Posted by mrbojangles25 (42117 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@blackballs said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

Not a trump supporter, just a centralist.

The whole irony of this is that everyone was fine with the violence, it's the other culture that has the problem. This has nothing to do with Western politics at all.

If you're going to blame something, blame capitalism and greed. R6 is one of the most successful games out there right now, selling multiple seasons worth of DLC in addition to base games; but apparently, that wasn't enough.

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#24 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (8184 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:

xD

@kenshiro3948 said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

This has nothing to do with leftists. It's just Ubifail being greedy and not wanting to dedicate resources to having two versions of the game.

Yea in this case, I was just venting at both sources of cencorship.

Yeah in this case, you don't know what you're talking about.

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#25 Posted by superbuuman (6347 posts) -

Asian market?...lol call it what it is...China market...that's what they are trying to get in. Soon enough you will be playing Wolf Warrior..lol..

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#26 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@kali-b1rd said:

xD

@kenshiro3948 said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

This has nothing to do with leftists. It's just Ubifail being greedy and not wanting to dedicate resources to having two versions of the game.

Yea in this case, I was just venting at both sources of cencorship.

Yeah in this case, you don't know what you're talking about.

You sound upset.

Can't help it if censorship is a big part of the left.

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#27 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (4609 posts) -

@boycie:

About time. Violence shouldn't be glorified in general. Glad to see Ubisoft is keeping up with the times

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#28 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@nepu7supastar7 said:

@boycie:

About time. Violence shouldn't be glorified in general. Glad to see Ubisoft is keeping up with the times

What should be glorified that could be competitive then? I am curious here. I want to know what you would replace the "violence" aspect with? hugs?

Which leads me to point you in Musical Macs direction:

@musicalmac said:

It’s funny about censorship, right? It seems like a good idea to some. Right up to the point where it infringes on your own life. Then it’s a problem.

Here’s an idea—let the free market of ideology pick and choose what stays and what goes. Learn to entertain ideas, understanding that you don’t need to embrace them.

It’s so simple.

If I wanted to use his example, relating it personally to you.

Your avatar looks like a game advertised on steam Neptunia?

Talk to a person on the street that thinks things should not be "glorified" and show them the google image I found by typing "Neptunia Scene" ... which looks like a bunch of clearly 14-15 year olds showering naked together. Yea you can't see the genitals or the nipples but we all know what this scene is intended for (the big steam bath Japanese cliche)

What would be their response?

We shouldn't be glorifying the displaying and watching of questionably aged girls showering each other.

and suddenly that started to take hold, and then your games are banned... or deeply censored with missing scenes.

who will defend your preferences then?

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#29 Posted by VagrantSnow (63 posts) -

It's not very difficult to swap out some assets and still remain compatible with other versions of the game. Can't see why Ubisoft needs to change the game for everyone. It's like denying steak to an adult because a child can't chew it.

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#30 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (8184 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:

Yeah in this case, you don't know what you're talking about.

You sound upset.

Can't help it if censorship is a big part of the left.

I don't even think you know what left and right wing mean. I'll help you:

http://alphahistory.com/frenchrevolution/girondins-and-montagnards/

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#31 Edited by nepu7supastar7 (4609 posts) -

@kali-b1rd:

"Your avatar looks like a game advertised on steam Neptunia?

Talk to a person on the street that thinks things should not be "glorified" and show them the google image I found by typing "Neptunia Scene" ... which looks like a bunch of clearly 14-15 year olds showering naked together. Yea you can't see the genitals or the nipples but we all know what this scene is intended for (the big steam bath Japanese cliche)

What would be their response?

We shouldn't be glorifying the displaying and watching of questionably aged girls showering each other.

and suddenly that started to take hold, and then your games are banned... or deeply censored with missing scenes.

who will defend your preferences then?"

lolz I'm glad you see the irony here! 😆

I could spend all day defending Neptunia but that's far from my point here. People get too easily offended by the most trivial crap all the time! And while our cultures make us desensitized over certain things and extremely sensitive over others, it just gets flat out ridiculous.

Ridiculous how far we go towards censorship and how hypocritical it makes us seem when we've become numb to other issues that's still relevant in today's world. Japan still sees genocide as disgusting but they let their products go free with underage sexualization. While the US sees underage sexualization as disgusting but lets their products go free with strong violence and gore. In reality, it's all bad but our cultures teach us to nitpick what's acceptable and what's not.

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#32 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (27167 posts) -

Everything in China gets censored.

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#33 Posted by DaVillain- (32431 posts) -

@kali-b1rd: Sounds like you have never played a Neptunia game before huh?

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#34 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (4609 posts) -

@davillain-:

How'd you get the name to appear in red? I put it exactly like how it's spelled too and it ended up being in black font! Now kali-b1rd will never read my message!

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#35 Posted by PSP107 (17257 posts) -

@nepu7supastar7: " How'd you get the name to appear in red"

lol

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#36 Posted by DaVillain- (32431 posts) -

@nepu7supastar7 said:

@davillain-:

How'd you get the name to appear in red? I put it exactly like how it's spelled too and it ended up being in black font! Now kali-b1rd will never read my message!

Are you on you're PC? Do you see the Replay, Quote buttons under GS usernames like Kali-b1rd? I assume you must be on Mobile device cause it won't show red unless you are on PC and I never type the username when we have replay/quote bottoms anyways.

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#37 Posted by Kali-B1rd (1452 posts) -
@davillain- said:

@kali-b1rd: Sounds like you have never played a Neptunia game before huh?

nope, like I said, all I did was google image "neptunia scene" knowing what ALL of these kind of games are about (even if there is actually a decent gameplay loop inbetween ;)

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#38 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (4609 posts) -

@davillain-:

I'm on mobile, damnit! I guess I'll just have to settle for what I get then. At least I still get to use emojiis.

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#39 Edited by DaVillain- (32431 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@davillain- said:

@kali-b1rd: Sounds like you have never played a Neptunia game before huh?

nope, like I said, all I did was google image "neptunia scene" knowing what ALL of these kind of games are about (even if there is actually a decent gameplay loop inbetween ;)

And that's the problem how every in the West views JRPG games/Animes alike when it has ecchi anime girls without ever playing the game at first hand.

In any case, you should at least play a Neptunia game. I'm a fan of the series.

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#40 Posted by Archangel3371 (26083 posts) -

@nepu7supastar7: I use mobile to. Why the name doesn’t appear in red is because of how some users made their names. I notice the ones with a “-“ in it or at the end tend not properly show up in replies.

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#41 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (4609 posts) -

@kali-b1rd:

Hyperdimension Neptunia is actually pretty light on the fan service. That's what I love about it. I can shrug off a bath scene if all they're doing is bathing and since it's always just one still shot.

But unlike most games, the still pictures are always put in the weirdest moments and extremely far apart from each other. If you're going by stills, you'd think it's some novel game but it's actually a jrpg. It would be pretty hard to tell from images alone. The story is so fucking kooky, you'd never guess the synopsis unless you see a video about it.

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#42 Posted by KungfuKitten (25919 posts) -

Essentially what they are saying is they want to have less people working on this game. I get that, but even then I would rather see the game support end than have it be censored to be allowed by some peculiar country.

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#43 Posted by knight-k (1994 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@davillain- said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@blackballs said:
@kali-b1rd said:

More cultural censorship and appeasement.

Keep it classy desperately progress-leftists.... f*ck your own cultural, just bend over to everyone else. for money or virtue signalling, its both shit.

Lol, wtf does this have to do with leftists? I swear Trump supporters are among the stupidest people I've ever met.

Not a trump supporter, just a centralist.

Not everyone's a Trump supporter in the U.S guys. Stop accusing U.S GS users.

To top it off I'm British :D

A brexiter then

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#44 Posted by Ten_Pints (3492 posts) -

If you can't see that the regressive-left ruins everything then... well then.

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#45 Posted by Boycie (4256 posts) -

@ten_pints said:

If you can't see that the regressive-left ruins everything then... well then.

Who ruined everything before the regressive-left came about then?

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#46 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (27167 posts) -

@ten_pints said:

If you can't see that the regressive-left ruins everything then... well then.

Only for a certain demographic.

Those of us who are diverse and love diversity see it differently.

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#47 Posted by skipper847 (7280 posts) -

Its like calling snowmen snow people. Worlds gone potty.

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#48 Edited by Jag85 (12237 posts) -

This is like the reverse of what Sony is doing, censoring Japanese games in Japan because Westerners find them offensive... In response to Sony's censorship, I predicted a reverse scenario like this one as a hypothetical "what if" scenario:

Sony censorship cripples even more games compared to Switch

@Jag85 said:

It makes sense why Sony might want to censor sexualized Japanese games for Western releases, since they are trying to appeal to mainstream Western audiences who find the sexualized content of these Japanese games to be morally offensive. Similarly, numerous Western games have been censored in Japan because mainstream Japanese audiences often find the extreme ultra-violent content of Western games to be morally offensive.

But what doesn't make sense is why Sony is censoring Japanese games in Japan itself... That almost seems like Sony is trying to impose Western moral values on its Japanese audiences, which doesn't make sense at all... That would be like censoring the violent content of Western games in America just because Japanese audiences find it offensive.

...Which sounds very much like what Ubisoft is doing, censoring Western games in the West because Asian audiences find their violent content offensive. Just like how Sony is censoring Japanese games in Japan because Western audiences find their sexualized content offensive.

In other words, different audiences are offended by different things. Western audiences are offended by sexualized cartoon characters, but not offended by extreme ultra-violence. Whereas Asian audiences are offended by extreme ultra-violence, but not offended by sexualized cartoon characters.

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#49 Edited by watercrack445 (738 posts) -

China is different than America and Japan cause it has multiple censorships. But I blame this on R6 because they can't make two separate versions of the game.

Sony censoring Japanese games In Japan can be basically perceived as proganga or brainwashing because they are changing some parts of Japan's culture throught indirectly censoring sexualized pixteled models through video games. Gamers will see this and they will be indirectly indoctrinated.

Its called psychology