Really can’t understand console players in this century

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#1 Posted by Antarte (330 posts) -

Yes, in the past century consoles were (almost) the only way to play, PCs were expensive as a car, complex to use, and you really did not need them for your normal life, consoles had a real meaning in that century, which was: to play many, cheap and easy.

But in this century, when everyone has (and need) a PC, and also, when consoles have less and less exclusivity, having more than 90% of their catalogue in multiplatform (which works better on PC, timeless and with mods, obvious)... here we have an... outdated... console fanboy core blaming the best device ever created to play, which has more freedom than any other device, with all genres, timeless without 'generations', with free online, cheaper games, even emulating all consoles from the past, able to modify games to the absurd, even creating entire new genres (which are famous later on consoles, you can thank us whenever you want, you know).

What’s wrong with them?

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#2 Posted by MonsieurX (38383 posts) -

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#3 Posted by DaVillain- (33026 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

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#4 Edited by rzxv04 (284 posts) -

Think for most PCs, they have those cheap 300-400 laptops that can't play games at the same IQ as 1S. Some of the more expensive ones are more jewelry being super thin and good looking with crappy thermal solutions.

There might also be some sort of precondition that's happened thanks to nostalgia specially during pre-teens years.

I can't find the article but there was one that mentioned the brain lights up similar when consoles are mentioned/used the same way the brain lights up with their girlfriends.

Still, PC probably has more concurrent userbase thanks to asia but most might be on sub 1S hardware playing mmos/cs/mobas/fb games.

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#5 Edited by phbz (3835 posts) -

To me the golden era of PC gaming was in the 1990's. Right now I favour playing RDR2 on the sofa on my 4k TV and PCs I use them for other stuff not gaming related.

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#6 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (24545 posts) -

Preferences. There are many who prefer consoles. Why? None of my business.

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#7 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (17948 posts) -

Lol, ok.

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#8 Edited by speedfreak48t5p (13257 posts) -

This will go well. Lol

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#9 Posted by Archangel3371 (26443 posts) -

I stick to consoles to keep people like you tossing and turning all night.

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#10 Posted by Sevenizz (2214 posts) -

Who really needs a pc anymore? Tablets and smartphones have made them obsolete. The last time I used mine was for printing airplane tickets.

As for gaming. Yes, it’s catalogue is immense. Seemingly endless when you think about it’s wealth of possibilities. But with that, there’s a lot of crap included and a plethora of obsoleteness.

I like my pc, but I don’t love it. Mine is about 5 years old, but I can’t play any modern triple A game without upgrading. It can play WoW, but just barely. This is a huge disadvantage to pc gaming which console gaming blows out of the water. My day one Xbox One can play Forza Horizon 4 with ease. My pc which I bought at the same time as my X1, cannot.

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#11 Posted by That_Old_Guy (674 posts) -

NEED EVIDENCE!!!!!

REPORTED!!!!

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#12 Posted by cainetao11 (35693 posts) -

@jun_aka_pekto: well said. I can’t understand people liking the taste of liver. It means nothing to me though.

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#13 Edited by opazlevi2 (7 posts) -

There's plenty of reasons actually. Although I play on both PC and console, I'm primarily a console player these days. My opinion is the complete opposite. If you don't have a PS4 in this generation then you as a gamer are doing yourself a disservice because of the fuckin' fantastic games.

In terms of games, saying consoles have less exclusivity is pretty inaccurate. I was mainly a PC, MMO player growing up until last year when a friend showed me Horizon Zero Dawn, that game alone made me go out and buy a PS4 and boy am I satisfied. PS4 also has God of War, Bloodborne, Shadow of the Colossus, Last of Us, Infamous, Uncharted, Kingdom Hearts, Yakuza 6, Persona 5, Spiderman, Gravity Rush 2, etc. Some of these are among the greatest games ever made. PS4 will also be getting Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Days Gone and Ghost of Tsushima soon. Xbox obviously has Halo, but admittedly they are lacking in the exclusive category. However, consoles get Kingdom Hearts 3, Spyro Reignited, obviously Red Dead Redemption. Console exclusivity is at its highest right now. None of these games are on PC and most probably never will be. Games also seem to come out way sooner for consoles, like RDR2 and Monster Hunter World. And then you have the Switch, which has Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Xenoblade Warriors, etc. If I were to pick a gaming platform to buy specifically based off the games available, PC wouldn't be my first option.

Price is also a point worth bringing up. I can go pick up a PS4 for $200 right now and that small upfront cost sounds better to most people than paying at least $800 for a decent PC. Also, it's obvious that building your PC is the way to go and most people just aren't interested in that or want to. It's easier to pick up a PS4 at GameStop, plug it in when you get home, and play. You can buy used games as well if you want the cheapest route. Granted we do have to pay for online, but the cost of a *good* PC will most likely exceed the price of a few years of Playstation Plus (which also gives you a bunch of free games every month). Again, many people would rather pay a smaller upfront cost and some monthly increments than paying a big upfront cost. I can keep going but I don't want to sound like a PS4 advertisement lmao.

Mobility is a big factor for me. I travel a bit and stuffing my PS4 and a few games in a backpack is much easier than taking my PC around lol. Takes all but a few seconds. Unless you're using a gaming laptop which are nice but too expensive.

I'll try to think of some more reasons, I know I had some but I forgot. PC obviously has superior graphics and tons of good games on Steam, but most PC exclusives are cheap indie games that can run on an average laptop. I only use my PC these days to play games that aren't on PS4 or Switch like Cuphead really. I'd rather be on my couch. Also I like emulation but again, most emulators can run on any PC, not specifically gaming PC's. PS3 emulation is still ass and PS4 emulation won't be here for a long time. But the best trio you can have right now is PC + PS4 + Switch.

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#14 Posted by ProtossRushX (4711 posts) -

i'll be playing my PC A shit ton when war 3 remaster and Wow classic come out but consoles > PC right now until those games drop

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#15 Posted by Zaryia (6716 posts) -

@opazlevi2 said:

Console exclusivity is at its highest right now.

Bullshit.

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#16 Posted by onesiphorus (2597 posts) -

System Wars, not Fanboy Wars! Can we talk about the games and the systems that play them instead of the people who play them?

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#18 Posted by opazlevi2 (7 posts) -

@zaryia:

@zaryia said:
@opazlevi2 said:

Console exclusivity is at its highest right now.

Bullshit.

are you gonna tell me why? or are your feelings hurt?

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#19 Posted by Antarte (330 posts) -

Yes... maybe most console fans got their brain cells burned before understand my post. Or, maybe I have explained too much together, or whatever, but this is not "one more topic" about why there are people who voluntary still playing in the worst possible conditions. What I want to know is:

What's wrong with those console fans to still blaming against the best device for videogames.

I don't care if you love to play in your "coooouch"... or if you want to convince everyone that you love your few hours duration exclusives, or if you repeat (until someone believes you) that you don't care about mods. Or if you are tired to say that you don't want lower prices, backwards compatibility, future certainty, all genres in their best shape, or whatever you invent to feel good with your pathetic situation, right?

I want to know why there still existing a core of fanboys that need to be constantly arguing against the PC, which is equal to argue against the best for videogames. :)

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#20 Edited by opazlevi2 (7 posts) -

lmao dude no one is arguing against the PC. people just have different opinions. each platform has pros and cons.

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#22 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (12508 posts) -

What's a PC?

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#23 Posted by cainetao11 (35693 posts) -

@Antarte: I guess some do. But it comes down to “well they attack me for what I like even though it has NO BEARING ON PC GAMERS LIVES”

Let’s not pretend toxicity doesn’t exist when it comes to pointless crap. I don’t care if you play video games on your iWatch. Just have fun.

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#24 Posted by joebones5000 (1889 posts) -

Too expensive to upgrade a pc right now. I'n happy enough with a console.

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#25 Edited by Zaryia (6716 posts) -
@opazlevi2 said:

@zaryia:

@zaryia said:
@opazlevi2 said:

Console exclusivity is at its highest right now.

Bullshit.

are you gonna tell me why? or are your feelings hurt?

You made the claim, prove it. Now count how many Exclusives above 8.0 PS3 and XB360 had last gen and compare them to how many they have this gen. From a rough estimate from MC or GS it seems it appears to be far lower, especially for XB, but give us some accurate data on your claim.

I can tell you which system has the biggest 8.0+ total library though, it's PC with over 100 games.

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#26 Posted by jeezers (1956 posts) -

@opazlevi2: I agree with everything you said, I play pc ps4 and switch. Shit I still play my 3ds and 360 from time to time, I have like +60 games for 360 and still pick up some when i see them real cheap. My switch is the newest addition and has gotten the majority of my game time, bayonetta 2, mario odessey, botw, Octopath, crash trilogy, rocket league, stardew valley, I'm a big civ guy but diddnt get the newest one on my pc yet, now i dont think I will because its comming out on the switch.

The only thing I play on pc recently was wow (canceled my subscription last week tho), dota 2, quake champions, and my old rts games.my pc isnt a beast but I have a 750ti and it handles these games great.

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#27 Posted by 2Chalupas (6925 posts) -

@Sevenizz said:

Who really needs a pc anymore? Tablets and smartphones have made them obsolete. The last time I used mine was for printing airplane tickets.

As for gaming. Yes, it’s catalogue is immense. Seemingly endless when you think about it’s wealth of possibilities. But with that, there’s a lot of crap included and a plethora of obsoleteness.

I like my pc, but I don’t love it. Mine is about 5 years old, but I can’t play any modern triple A game without upgrading. It can play WoW, but just barely. This is a huge disadvantage to pc gaming which console gaming blows out of the water. My day one Xbox One can play Forza Horizon 4 with ease. My pc which I bought at the same time as my X1, cannot.

My thoughts exactly. If anything, having a "gaming PC" is probably an even bigger leap than it ever was. 10 years ago, having a PC was still absolutely essential to most people. So basically everyone had a PC that might play low end games, and just a few upgrades or custom build and voilla, "Gaming PC". It was just a slight upgrade on a 100% essential device.

Now there are more cracks in that, because most people get by with just a smartphone and maybe an IPAD. A PC is no longer absolutely essential, and even where people still have school or professional requirements that necessitate some type of PC, laptops and macbooks dominate.

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#28 Posted by freedomfreak (50769 posts) -

No games. Expensive. Hassle.

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#29 Posted by JoshRMeyer (10055 posts) -

@Antarte: Century is 100 years... PCs aren't needed as much anymore. Tablets or even smart phones do the job or laptops. PCs have their place, but they aren't like they were when I was growing up.

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#30 Posted by sakaiXx (4201 posts) -

fuckin PC elitist.

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#31 Edited by rzxv04 (284 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@Antarte: I guess some do. But it comes down to “well they attack me for what I like even though it has NO BEARING ON PC GAMERS LIVES”

Let’s not pretend toxicity doesn’t exist when it comes to pointless crap. I don’t care if you play video games on your iWatch. Just have fun.

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Yup. Have fun people!

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#32 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (24728 posts) -
@Sevenizz said:

Who really needs a pc anymore? Tablets and smartphones have made them obsolete. The last time I used mine was for printing airplane tickets.

As for gaming. Yes, it’s catalogue is immense. Seemingly endless when you think about it’s wealth of possibilities. But with that, there’s a lot of crap included and a plethora of obsoleteness.

I like my pc, but I don’t love it. Mine is about 5 years old, but I can’t play any modern triple A game without upgrading. It can play WoW, but just barely. This is a huge disadvantage to pc gaming which console gaming blows out of the water. My day one Xbox One can play Forza Horizon 4 with ease. My pc which I bought at the same time as my X1, cannot.

Yours may not be able to play the newest games, but 6 year old processors like the 3770k and the 5 year old 780 GTX can still play many newer games. Even the 760 GTX can run Battlefield 1 at over 60 fps at 1080p on medium with a decent processor such as the 3770k. Better than even the base PS4, which came out AFTER both the 760 GTX and 3770k.

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#33 Posted by Gaming-Planet (19658 posts) -

Consoles are convenient and optimized.

One product to have support for 5 or so years. That's a good deal.

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#34 Posted by raugutcon (5460 posts) -

Dropped PC gaming a decade ago, got bored of having to install all kinds of shit ( hardware and software ) in order to play a game that still crashed.

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#35 Posted by qx0d (140 posts) -

The most obvious reason I play consoles is because I get to play them on a big TV. I can relax on the couch. You just put the disc in and play. Console is practical.

What is not practical is a 600 dollar graphics card, that you have to attach inside your PC somewhere. Or an 800 dollar processor.

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#36 Posted by Dark_sageX (3259 posts) -
@Sevenizz said:

Who really needs a pc anymore? Tablets and smartphones have made them obsolete.

Are you actually serious?

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#37 Posted by Sevenizz (2214 posts) -

@Dark_sageX: Are you?

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#38 Posted by Vaidream45 (1439 posts) -

Most people seem to have a laptop at home instead of pc and use laptop mainly for work. I seem to be one of the only peeps I know with a gaming pc still. Even audio engineers use mac and they are weak in the gpu department and strong cpu. Same with video editing. I dunno, I game on both pc and console but I know most people are on one side of the fense and just throw shit at the other side.

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#39 Posted by knight-k (2167 posts) -

@Antarte said:

Yes, in the past century consoles were (almost) the only way to play, PCs were expensive as a car, complex to use, and you really did not need them for your normal life, consoles had a real meaning in that century, which was: to play many, cheap and easy.

But in this century, when everyone has (and need) a PC, and also, when consoles have less and less exclusivity, having more than 90% of their catalogue in multiplatform (which works better on PC, timeless and with mods, obvious)... here we have an... outdated... console fanboy core blaming the best device ever created to play, which has more freedom than any other device, with all genres, timeless without 'generations', with free online, cheaper games, even emulating all consoles from the past, able to modify games to the absurd, even creating entire new genres (which are famous later on consoles, you can thank us whenever you want, you know).

What’s wrong with them?

Call me back when PC has a notheworthy AAA exclusives.

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#40 Posted by Pixel_Mage (57 posts) -

Yay, more toxicity from the PC crowd who seem to think they're so superior because... Actually, I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It's called preferences, doofus. I prefer the unified online/friends list. I prefer using a TV (yes you can hook a PC to a TV, but switching back and forth is irritating and not very practical). I prefer the controller (controller options on PC are often half-assed). I like trophies (Steam achievements are so poorly done it's not funny). I like not having to mess with settings just to get a game functioning, and probably have to go do it again at a different point in the game later. I like physical games. I couldn't care less about mods. Most importantly, I prefer the games themselves. It's a simple fact that the majority of games I play are simply not on PC. There are very few PC exclusives that interest me in any way, and there aren't even that many multiplats I care for. Even for those few multiplats, the cost of a PC is simply not worth the marginal differences in graphics. I'm not paying 10x more for a 10% increase in graphics in 10% of my games. Console games look and run just fine.

Before you start attacking me for not having experienced 60fps and acting like I've never seen a PC before, I've had PCs for almost 30 years. I've played plenty of games at 60fps (on both consoles and PC). I just don't care. 30 fps doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't even notice it unless I stop and think about it. I don't hate PC, and there are a few games here and there I'll play on it (it's outdated nowadays but that's because I've had no reason to spend a ton of money on upgrades that I won't make use of), but my primary systems are and always have been consoles. If you prefer the PC experience, good for you. Have fun. The console experience is vastly superior to me.

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#41 Posted by sovkhan (1165 posts) -

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#42 Edited by uninspiredcup (29220 posts) -

I can certainly see you're point. As someone coming from Steam to Switches online "service", i'm having to pay £3+ to play Street Fighter II online, a 25 year old game that free the day before. With the only "benefit" being a strictly online only regulated rom dump of NES games, the majority not even good ones, for which they have aggressively went round the net destroying rom sites.

Steam compressively offers so many, superior, better though out features, for free, that this "service" is just, laughable.

Even in the context of PC, several years ago, Electronic Arts used the excuse Steam was "around longer" and thus had an advantage over Origin. Since then EA have added nothing of value, overpriced games consistently, and attempted to exploit people, while Steam itself has added so much since that comment it may as well be a wholly different service.

PS4 is slightly less worse, as you get a bunch of free games. But i'm still paying to play SFV forcablly, while completely free on Steam.

For online, consoles are absolutely a waste of time. Unless you like being deliberatively ignorant, or are some little kid who's mom won't get him one.

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#43 Edited by SolidGame_basic (23394 posts) -

I know, it's a tough pill to swallow for you. The fact that someone may actually have a preference that's different from yours.

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#44 Posted by Epak_ (10467 posts) -

Having lived life as a poor PC gamer for most of my childhood while being envious of the console exclusives I'm failing to see the superiority of PC gaming. Consoles still have exclusives I can't play on PC.

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#45 Posted by knight-k (2167 posts) -

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Having lived life as a poor PC gamer for most of my childhood while being envious of the console exclusives I'm failing to see the superiority of PC gaming. Consoles still have exclusives I can't play on PC.

This.

In the end, it's all about the games.

Hermits have a hard time grasping this simple concept it seems.

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#46 Edited by DragonfireXZ95 (24728 posts) -
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Yay, more toxicity from the PC crowd who seem to think they're so superior because... Actually, I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It's called preferences, doofus. I prefer the unified online/friends list. I prefer using a TV (yes you can hook a PC to a TV, but switching back and forth is irritating and not very practical). I prefer the controller (controller options on PC are often half-assed). I like trophies (Steam achievements are so poorly done it's not funny). I like not having to mess with settings just to get a game functioning, and probably have to go do it again at a different point in the game later. I like physical games. I couldn't care less about mods. Most importantly, I prefer the games themselves. It's a simple fact that the majority of games I play are simply not on PC. There are very few PC exclusives that interest me in any way, and there aren't even that many multiplats I care for. Even for those few multiplats, the cost of a PC is simply not worth the marginal differences in graphics. I'm not paying 10x more for a 10% increase in graphics in 10% of my games. Console games look and run just fine.

Before you start attacking me for not having experienced 60fps and acting like I've never seen a PC before, I've had PCs for almost 30 years. I've played plenty of games at 60fps (on both consoles and PC). I just don't care. 30 fps doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't even notice it unless I stop and think about it. I don't hate PC, and there are a few games here and there I'll play on it (it's outdated nowadays but that's because I've had no reason to spend a ton of money on upgrades that I won't make use of), but my primary systems are and always have been consoles. If you prefer the PC experience, good for you. Have fun. The console experience is vastly superior to me.

You'll have to explain this one to me. PC allows you to use literally any controller you want to for any game. Xbox One controller, PS4 controller, PS3, Xbox 360; hell, a streamer set up a racing wheel to play Dark Souls. Sorry, but controller options are infinitely more customizable on PC.

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#47 Edited by uninspiredcup (29220 posts) -

@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@pixel_mage said:

Yay, more toxicity from the PC crowd who seem to think they're so superior because... Actually, I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It's called preferences, doofus. I prefer the unified online/friends list. I prefer using a TV (yes you can hook a PC to a TV, but switching back and forth is irritating and not very practical). I prefer the controller (controller options on PC are often half-assed). I like trophies (Steam achievements are so poorly done it's not funny). I like not having to mess with settings just to get a game functioning, and probably have to go do it again at a different point in the game later. I like physical games. I couldn't care less about mods. Most importantly, I prefer the games themselves. It's a simple fact that the majority of games I play are simply not on PC. There are very few PC exclusives that interest me in any way, and there aren't even that many multiplats I care for. Even for those few multiplats, the cost of a PC is simply not worth the marginal differences in graphics. I'm not paying 10x more for a 10% increase in graphics in 10% of my games. Console games look and run just fine.

Before you start attacking me for not having experienced 60fps and acting like I've never seen a PC before, I've had PCs for almost 30 years. I've played plenty of games at 60fps (on both consoles and PC). I just don't care. 30 fps doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't even notice it unless I stop and think about it. I don't hate PC, and there are a few games here and there I'll play on it (it's outdated nowadays but that's because I've had no reason to spend a ton of money on upgrades that I won't make use of), but my primary systems are and always have been consoles. If you prefer the PC experience, good for you. Have fun. The console experience is vastly superior to me.

You'll have to explain this one to me. PC allows you to use literally any controller you want to for any game. Xbox One controller, PS4 controller, PS3, Xbox 360; hell, a streamer set up a racing wheel to play Dark Souls. Sorry, but controller options are infinitely more customizable on PC.

The Steam Controller with configs allow any game to be auto-configured, even games that don't support controller.

Completed System Shock 1 with the Steam Controller, can't do that with a Xbox pad.

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#48 Posted by VanDammFan (4770 posts) -

this thread is new and interesting.

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#49 Posted by VanDammFan (4770 posts) -

ive been saying this for at least 5 years..STILL as of today,in my personal life im the only person on a pc/laptop..nobody i know even has one. everyone is on their phones and consoles. AND i think thats for most of America at least.. Matter of fact my pc screwed up several months back. Normally I would have had a heart attack and tried to fix it or replace it no matter what..However I just grabbed my wifes old laptop and use it. Every year that goes by even I get tired of messing with them..Consoles for gaming is just how games are played.. I dont care what advantages a pc can have. Not worth messing with in my book anymore..

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#50 Posted by sealionact (3234 posts) -

@Dark_sageX: Of course he's serious. The days of pcs in the house as being a necessity are dying. All household matters like paying bills, sending emails, printing receipts, checking accounts etc, are easier and better supported on mobile.

You don't NEED a traditional pc anymore.