New iPad Pro as powerful as Xbox One S. Should MS be terrified?

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Posted by rzxv04 (284 posts) 1 month, 16 days ago

Poll: New iPad Pro as powerful as Xbox One S. Should MS be terrified? (84 votes)

Maybe 18%
Not really 82%

Assassin's Creed..... Rebellion. 120 FPS.

NBA 2K console quality graphics with pinholes rendered jerseys! Almost 6 million pixels no upscaling. 60 FPS.

"New experience that rivals consoles for the very first time!"

:)

Apple et al were doing the ones doing the comparisons.

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#1 Posted by VFighter (4040 posts) -

It could be the most powerful computi,g device on the planet and yet it would still suck as a gaming device.

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#2 Edited by sakaiXx (4212 posts) -

its a mac.

*or whatever version of apple os it is

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#3 Posted by navyguy21 (15123 posts) -

WTF?

No, the Ipad does not match a console as far as graphics rendering and performance.

Even if it DID, the PS4/Xbox One came out in 2013

.................its nearly 2019.......................

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#4 Posted by SolidGame_basic (23394 posts) -

It's also 4 times more expensive than an Xbox

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#5 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (8232 posts) -

I don't like gaming with a touch pad.

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#6 Edited by RR360DD (14067 posts) -

Yes I'm sure they are quaking in their boots

LOL

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#7 Edited by SecretPolice (34166 posts) -

Congrats, TC, you win the award....

lol :P

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#8 Posted by kuu2 (10941 posts) -

@SecretPolice said:

Congrats, TC, you win the award....

lol :P

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#9 Posted by GoldenElementXL (2411 posts) -

1 - How much will this iPad Pro cost?

2 - What is the battery life when playing games?

3 - Will we have to visit a burn unit because the thing gets so damn hot?

4 - How old is the Xbox One S tech?

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#10 Posted by StrongDeadlift (5577 posts) -

A console that came out in 2013 that uses a dumbed down (to less than half of the original power)version of a laptop gpu from 2011?

Sounds about right. Phones were already approaching 360/PS3 at this point in their lifecycles.

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#11 Posted by sealionact (3241 posts) -

Someone move this to the "General nonsense" board ......

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#12 Edited by rzxv04 (284 posts) -

@RR360DD said:

Yes I'm sure they are quaking in their boots

LOL

Is that post legit? That's pretty cool if so. Then again IDK if MS is already doing that with games like Fort/Pub, etc.

@SecretPolice said:

Congrats, TC, you win the award....

lol :P

I gladly accept the gold. :)

For real though, not sure if spoilers tag was working for you. Might wanna check what was next to AC and line 4.

@SolidGame_basic said:

It's also 4 times more expensive than an Xbox

But Apple said it's MAGICAL.

@HalcyonScarlet said:

I don't like gaming with a touch pad.

Soon the minority maybe. I'd say a lot of children today are gaming first on touch devices then move onto more console-esque games such as fps/tps on a touch screen. Don't think console userbase is gonna shrink though.

@goldenelementxl said:

1 - How much will this iPad Pro cost?

2 - What is the battery life when playing games?

3 - Will we have to visit a burn unit because the thing gets so damn hot?

4 - How old is the Xbox One S tech?

whopping 800 bucks.

I can't remember where it was posted but playing similar games (was it Fortnite?) was the same for iPad Pro last gen and Switch. Past 2 hours I think.

I bet the middle part gets quite hot unless iPads now throttle. I know iPhones do but the iPads has always had dissipation advantage due to surface area.

Around 2013.

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#13 Edited by Bond007uk (883 posts) -

There are no mobile chips out there that can match even the low end AMD Jaguar APU hardware in the One S. Even if there was, could you imagine how hot they would be to hold or how quickly the battery would drain?

Does the OP understand the difference between the power hungry AMD/Intel based architecture of the Xbox One and PS4 and low power ARM architecture sitting inside an iPad? I think not.

Stupid post.

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#14 Posted by SecretPolice (34166 posts) -

@rzxv04:

Ahhh, okay, I normally catch the sarc with ease. lol :P

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#15 Posted by rzxv04 (284 posts) -

@SecretPolice said:

@rzxv04:

Ahhh, okay, I normally catch the sarc with ease. lol :P

It's good. I'm horrible at it.

These things aint touching MS' ecosystem (sw and hw) for local AAA gaming anytime soon.

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#16 Posted by tormentos (28006 posts) -

@goldenelementxl said:

1 - How much will this iPad Pro cost?

2 - What is the battery life when playing games?

3 - Will we have to visit a burn unit because the thing gets so damn hot?

4 - How old is the Xbox One S tech?

Is an Ipad so you know it will have a totally shitty and bloated price.

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#17 Posted by AJStyles (248 posts) -

LOL that it took Apple 5 years to catch up to 2013 graphics and they have to charge $1000 for it when Xbones go for $200.

Apple embarrassed themselves.

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#18 Posted by Archangel3371 (26444 posts) -

No, not at all.

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#19 Posted by xantufrog (10097 posts) -

No. It's the same logic regarding the "Switch killers" that keep coming up. Power isn't everything. Or even much at all. Apple lacks the brand (yes, I said that) to be remotely competitive in the "core" games market at this time. They could build their way there, with time and sunk costs. But this ipad (lol) isn't going to flip the table

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#20 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (8232 posts) -

@rzxv04 said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

I don't like gaming with a touch pad.

Soon the minority maybe. I'd say a lot of children today are gaming first on touch devices then move onto more console-esque games such as fps/tps on a touch screen. Don't think console userbase is gonna shrink though.

I've tried. For ols school games like Sonic and Streets of Rage, it's horrendous. Crazy Taxi isn't too bad though. I think the only reason it doesn't fail, is because it's the only option in portable devices like phones and pads. If it was part of a games console, I think it would struggle like Kinect and Wiimote to become more than a fad.

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#21 Posted by Xabiss (2094 posts) -

And it cost 4 to 5 times as much. Good lord you fanboys are dumb. It is like saying it is more powerful then the Switch should Nintendo be worried. ROFLMAO!

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#22 Posted by BigBadBully (2019 posts) -

MS scared cause they'll have to open another bank account to store the extra money from all these xcloud ready devices.

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#23 Posted by DaVillain- (33036 posts) -

I rather play my Nintendo Switch then this POS!

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#24 Posted by tormentos (28006 posts) -

@Xabiss said:

And it cost 4 to 5 times as much. Good lord you fanboys are dumb. It is like saying it is more powerful then the Switch should Nintendo be worried. ROFLMAO!

See you don't act like this when the topic is about the PS4..Hahahaha

You can't help it..

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#25 Edited by Xabiss (2094 posts) -

@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

And it cost 4 to 5 times as much. Good lord you fanboys are dumb. It is like saying it is more powerful then the Switch should Nintendo be worried. ROFLMAO!

See you don't act like this when the topic is about the PS4..Hahahaha

You can't help it..

I would of said the samething if it would of said PS4 . You see I put a part about the Switch in there also. Damn you are just an idiot.

The OP was comparing a tablet device to a home console that sales for 4 to 5 times as much. But keep creating those false narratives you are good for it!

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#26 Edited by locus-solus (1076 posts) -

Apple has a history of not cooling they hardware properly just Recently with their mobile macs with i9 6c/12t at 4.8ghz it was cooled so poorly that the cock would throttle below something like 2.2ghz.

while on paper the ipad pro might have more compute performance than a xbox one doubt real world performance will reflect it.

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#27 Edited by freedom01 (3282 posts) -

It may be powerful compared to the X1S, but it doesn't have the games to back it up.
Also, touch screen controls are terrible to play on, depending on the games

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#28 Posted by Zero_epyon (12817 posts) -

Tablets, no matter how powerful, will never compete with a full console experience. Apple just needs to enter the console market already.

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#29 Posted by JoshRMeyer (10055 posts) -

What are apple fanboys called? They're worse than Lems. Dumb post.

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#30 Posted by GarGx1 (10562 posts) -
@Zero_epyon said:

Tablets, no matter how powerful, will never compete with a full console experience. Apple just needs to enter the console market already.

I can just imagine the price tag attached to an Apple console. They'd charge $200 just for the Apple logo on the box

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#31 Posted by Zappat (1267 posts) -
@joshrmeyer said:

What are apple fanboys called? They're worse than Lems. Dumb post.

Since they are on a rotten apple maybe worms? But there's nothing worse than Lems.

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#32 Edited by JoshRMeyer (10055 posts) -

@zappat: Lol nice... They are suckers for buying old overpriced tech and claiming it's some new awesome feature. Worms seem apt though.

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#33 Posted by uninspiredcup (29223 posts) -

A cheap tablet can easily run Dreamcast/PSP level games.

They don't have anything to worry about as most Publishers are more interested in cheap and easy scam games than something with substance or quality.

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#34 Posted by ProtossRushX (4712 posts) -

LMAO at the xbox one i hate mine lol its weaker than a fucking ipad

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#35 Posted by Zero_epyon (12817 posts) -
@GarGx1 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Tablets, no matter how powerful, will never compete with a full console experience. Apple just needs to enter the console market already.

I can just imagine the price tag attached to an Apple console. They'd charge $200 just for the Apple logo on the box

Of course lol. I never said they'd be good at it. Just don't sell overpriced tablets because it runs a couple of games ok. Might as well go full Apple Tax on a console.

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#36 Posted by kingtito (9938 posts) -

@zappat said:
@joshrmeyer said:

What are apple fanboys called? They're worse than Lems. Dumb post.

Since they are on a rotten apple maybe worms? But there's nothing worse than Lems.

Riiiggghhhtttt, cows aren't called cockroaches around the world for nothing.....

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#37 Posted by Zappat (1267 posts) -
@kingtito said:
@zappat said:
@joshrmeyer said:

What are apple fanboys called? They're worse than Lems. Dumb post.

Since they are on a rotten apple maybe worms? But there's nothing worse than Lems.

Riiiggghhhtttt, cows aren't called cockroaches around the world for nothing.....

That's all in your rodent head

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#38 Posted by kingtito (9938 posts) -

@zappat said:
@kingtito said:
@zappat said:
@joshrmeyer said:

What are apple fanboys called? They're worse than Lems. Dumb post.

Since they are on a rotten apple maybe worms? But there's nothing worse than Lems.

Riiiggghhhtttt, cows aren't called cockroaches around the world for nothing.....

That's all in your rodent head

Sure cockroach urrr I mean cow. Sorry but that's a fact

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#39 Posted by kingtito (9938 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:

LMAO at the xbox one i hate mine lol its weaker than a fucking ipad

Shhhhh little man..grown folks are talking.

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#40 Posted by SchnabbleTab (1440 posts) -

@Xabiss said:
@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

And it cost 4 to 5 times as much. Good lord you fanboys are dumb. It is like saying it is more powerful then the Switch should Nintendo be worried. ROFLMAO!

See you don't act like this when the topic is about the PS4..Hahahaha

You can't help it..

I would of said the samething if it would of said PS4 . You see I put a part about the Switch in there also. Damn you are just an idiot.

The OP was comparing a tablet device to a home console that sales for 4 to 5 times as much. But keep creating those false narratives you are good for it!

You don't have the right to call someone an idiot when you write sentences like "I would of said the samething if it would of said PS4". You also missed the sarcasm in the OP's post, just like your other lem pals did. So much outrage for a sarcastic post.

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#41 Posted by SchnabbleTab (1440 posts) -

@kingtito said:
@ProtossRushX said:

LMAO at the xbox one i hate mine lol its weaker than a fucking ipad

Shhhhh little man..grown folks are talking.

How do you know? You're certainly not part of that clique.

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#42 Posted by DrLostRib (4367 posts) -

I have yet to find a mobile game that holds my interest for longer than a week

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#43 Posted by MonsieurX (38384 posts) -
@ProtossRushX said:

LMAO at the xbox one i hate mine lol its weaker than a fucking ipad

Sure thing, we all believe you

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#44 Posted by Xabiss (2094 posts) -
@SchnabbleTab said:
@Xabiss said:
@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

And it cost 4 to 5 times as much. Good lord you fanboys are dumb. It is like saying it is more powerful then the Switch should Nintendo be worried. ROFLMAO!

See you don't act like this when the topic is about the PS4..Hahahaha

You can't help it..

I would of said the samething if it would of said PS4 . You see I put a part about the Switch in there also. Damn you are just an idiot.

The OP was comparing a tablet device to a home console that sales for 4 to 5 times as much. But keep creating those false narratives you are good for it!

You don't have the right to call someone an idiot when you write sentences like "I would of said the samething if it would of said PS4". You also missed the sarcasm in the OP's post, just like your other lem pals did. So much outrage for a sarcastic post.

For one I wrote that at work on my cell phone Mr. Perfection. I am sure you have never made a mistake or typo while writing on a forum. huh?

Also that was not sarcasm. You need to know the history between me and Tormentos before saying anything. Idiot!

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#45 Posted by ronvalencia (26541 posts) -

- Assassin's Creed Rebellion... easy beat for XBO level R7-260 GPU

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#46 Posted by kingtito (9938 posts) -

@SchnabbleTab said:
@kingtito said:
@ProtossRushX said:

LMAO at the xbox one i hate mine lol its weaker than a fucking ipad

Shhhhh little man..grown folks are talking.

How do you know? You're certainly not part of that clique.

Shhh kid, like I said grown folks are talking

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#47 Posted by Solaryellow (4486 posts) -

@sealionact said:

Someone move this to the "General nonsense" board ......

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#48 Posted by musicalmac (24981 posts) -

The most interesting thing here is that the silicon that powers the new iPad Pro is fully designed (CPU and GPU) by Apple. And those chops absolutely crush the competition.

To say the new iPad Pro can offer an Xbox one like experience in a sustained and long term manner is likely not accurate (no active cooling). But—to ignore Apple’s runaway progress in this regard is denying reality.

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#49 Posted by ProtossRushX (4712 posts) -

I recommend FFT: War of the Lions for IOS its actually the best version of FFT no lag and cleaner graphics and the touch controls are amazing with all the extra content worth replaying again

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#50 Posted by rzxv04 (284 posts) -

@musicalmac said:

The most interesting thing here is that the silicon that powers the new iPad Pro is fully designed (CPU and GPU) by Apple. And those chops absolutely crush the competition.

To say the new iPad Pro can offer an Xbox one like experience in a sustained and long term manner is likely not accurate (no active cooling). But—to ignore Apple’s runaway progress in this regard is denying reality.

Tbh it's actually interesting if any of the new iPad versions don't throttle performance. I'd give them 15% downthrottle okay.

It's just that their phone lines have started to throttle even at the early lifespan of the phone just right during initial reviews after the 6S generation.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10685/the-iphone-7-and-iphone-7-plus-review/5

Not exactly the same benchmark though.

I cannot find much data about ipad Pro's gpu throttling except that instance about someone using a heavy GPU app while charging.

If I can get my hands on one I'll try a throttling tests on it for 2 1/2 - 3 hours which seem par for the course for dedicated handheld consoles when running the most demanding 3D games.

It's fine, most here a SWarriors and there's only few of us who like watching the spec scene with less SW flavor. Mostly some schadenfreude here is all.

I do remember intel investing less on the mobile front a few years back but they might change their course with the tease for GPU tech. I'd gamble they're gonna enter more powerful APUs a bit after 2020. Bit of a cop out if you consider they've always had GPUs for most of their processor lineup.