GoFundMe for wall fail and is issuing refunds

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#1 Edited by resevl4rlz (3841 posts) -

http://amp.businessinsider.com/gofundme-refunding-donations-build-the-wall-fundraiser-2019-1

I knew this was going to fail at the start but at least they were/weren't scam and are getting their money back if they choose to. If they dont they get to choose where their money goes to a charity organization.

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#2 Posted by Baconstrip78 (1199 posts) -

It’s a scam. We Build the Wall, Inc. is his new venture created in hopes he can get some of that $20 mil back into his own pocket.

Thankfully Gofundme doesn’t allow campaigns like this to just reposition collected funds without the consent of the backers.

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#3 Edited by Serraph105 (33159 posts) -

I kind of wish it was a straight up scam and no one was getting their money back. My heart definitely does not go out to people who send their money to create a monument to their own xenophobia.

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#4 Posted by N64DD (11321 posts) -

@Serraph105: lol Xenophobia? Drama much?

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#5 Posted by Serraph105 (33159 posts) -

@n64dd: not at all. Xenophobia is exactly why the wall is supported.

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#6 Posted by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

Hmm, considering they raised 20m in 26 days despite it failing very short from its 1b target

It´s still pretty good.But a shame they didn´t manage to collect it all.

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#7 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (10158 posts) -

The guy who created it has a dubious past at a best, and he's a total scam artist at worst.

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#8 Posted by N64DD (11321 posts) -

@Serraph105: Sounds like a wonderful

Hateful opinion.

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#9 Posted by BlackBalls (1159 posts) -

lol was waiting for this to happen. So stupid from the beginning. But actually this is a good end, I honestly thought he was going to run with the money and go hide somewhere.

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#10 Edited by luzarius (224 posts) -
@Serraph105 said:

I kind of wish it was a straight up scam and no one was getting their money back. My heart definitely does not go out to people who send their money to create a monument to their own xenophobia.

The purpose of the wall is to prevent illegal immigration and encourage legal migration. Under Trump's administration we still have legal migration to America, this is not xenophobic.

Illegal crossings are dangerous to migrants and border patrol agents. Many migrants have died trying to cross over illegally, especially children. Lots of border patrol agents have also been killed.

America does not have open borders with Mexico because that country has a huge drug and crime problem.

I'm a former Democrat, but I still care about you. I strongly recommend you make better arguments. Comments like yours damages the credibility of your political party.

Here is objective evidence proving that a wall is effective at deterring illegal immigration: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/ - Border fence in Israel cut illegal immigration by 99 percent, GOP senator says

#trump2020
(join us, it's better on this side)

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#11 Posted by Nuck81 (7113 posts) -

You mean this money wasn't actually going to go directly to trumps pocket to build the wall.

What a twist!!!

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#12 Posted by Baconstrip78 (1199 posts) -

@Jacanuk: Don’t worry Mexico donated the rest. I hear the check’s in the mail.

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#13 Posted by Horgen (119097 posts) -

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

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#14 Posted by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

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#15 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

Shhhh.....republicans don't want to hear the truth.

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#16 Posted by Mandzilla (2660 posts) -

Hilarious. All money collected should go to charity.

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#17 Posted by Horgen (119097 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

Just have the whole police out looking for them?

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#18 Edited by BlackBalls (1159 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

But I thought Mexico was going to pay for it? So much for your god - Trump - art of the deal.

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#19 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

Which isn't the majority of illegal immigration while overstaying visas are.

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#20 Posted by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

Which isn't the majority of illegal immigration while overstaying visas are.

And that still does not change my argument.

It´s easier to deal with the overstayers than it is not doing anything at all about the border.

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#21 Posted by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@blackballs said:
@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

But I thought Mexico was going to pay for it? So much for your god - Trump - art of the deal.

And Mexico would pay for it if Trump could sit down and actually use his office for work.

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#22 Posted by BlackBalls (1159 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@blackballs said:
@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

But I thought Mexico was going to pay for it? So much for your god - Trump - art of the deal.

And Mexico would pay for it if Trump could sit down and actually use his office for work.

2 years and he hasn't sat down in his office to work? N

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#23 Edited by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@blackballs said:

2 years and he hasn't sat down in his office to work? N

Not as much as I would have liked. No.

He had the Congress in his hands and if he hadn´t stepped a certain person so hard over the toes that he made him an enemy, a lot of good for this country could have been accomplished.

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#24 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Which isn't the majority of illegal immigration while overstaying visas are.

And that still does not change my argument.

It´s easier to deal with the overstayers than it is not doing anything at all about the border.

And yet if the problem is expired visas then why ISN'T anything being done and while pretending the border is the problem when it isn't . Government wastes enough taxpayer dollars............this is beyond ridiculous. Perhaps you don't pay taxes.

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#25 Posted by Baconstrip78 (1199 posts) -

@HoolaHoopMan: Nice tip. I looked him up and he’s quite a scumbag. Running a right wing news site and using bots to funnel traffic through it to con advertisers before eventually being shut down.

Yeah so shocking people would open their wallets and give a man like this even a nickel of their hard-earned money.

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#26 Edited by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Which isn't the majority of illegal immigration while overstaying visas are.

And that still does not change my argument.

It´s easier to deal with the overstayers than it is not doing anything at all about the border.

And yet if the problem is expired visas then why ISN'T anything being done and while pretending the border is the problem when it isn't . Government wastes enough taxpayer dollars............this is beyond ridiculous. Perhaps you don't pay taxes.

Ask the politicians.

I do not make legislation and when you got a party like the Democrats who see open borders and everyone is welcome as the only solution, it´s hard to get proper legislation that can help solve the problem with overstayers.

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#27 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (10158 posts) -

@Baconstrip78 said:

@HoolaHoopMan: Nice tip. I looked him up and he’s quite a scumbag. Running a right wing news site and using bots to funnel traffic through it to con advertisers before eventually being shut down.

Yeah so shocking people would open their wallets and give a man like this even a nickel of their hard-earned money.

Yep, he's been in the business of propagating 'fake' news for years on the right.

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#28 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:

And that still does not change my argument.

It´s easier to deal with the overstayers than it is not doing anything at all about the border.

And yet if the problem is expired visas then why ISN'T anything being done and while pretending the border is the problem when it isn't . Government wastes enough taxpayer dollars............this is beyond ridiculous. Perhaps you don't pay taxes.

Ask the politicians.

I do not make legislation and when you got a party like the Democrats who see open borders and everyone is welcome as the only solution, it´s hard to get proper legislation that can help solve the problem with overstayers.

Way to miss the point..............I'm asking you. You're the one crying here for a wall.

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#29 Posted by Gaming-Planet (19729 posts) -
@Serraph105 said:

@n64dd: not at all. Xenophobia is exactly why the wall is supported.

Are you a xenophile?

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#30 Posted by foxhound_fox (97584 posts) -

@mandzilla said:

Hilarious. All money collected should go to charity.

For extra irony, charity that benefits Mexican immigrants.

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#31 Posted by jeezers (2096 posts) -

@Jacanuk: I always laugh when people bring up visas overstayed, its a seperate issue from the wall, both need to be looked at tho

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#32 Posted by Mandzilla (2660 posts) -
@foxhound_fox said:
@mandzilla said:

Hilarious. All money collected should go to charity.

For extra irony, charity that benefits Mexican immigrants.

Perfect.

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#33 Posted by dreman999 (11371 posts) -

@n64dd: because it is xenophobia. How do you not see it?

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#34 Posted by dreman999 (11371 posts) -

@jeezers: no it's not. Way more people doing that then crossing the border.

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#35 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@jeezers said:

@Jacanuk: I always laugh when people bring up visas overstayed, its a seperate issue from the wall, both need to be looked at tho

Considering the majority of illegals come in legally the wall is a waste of time and money. But go ahead and listen to the tweets of a mad man for your education. It will serve well.

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#36 Posted by N64DD (11321 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic said:
@jeezers said:

@Jacanuk: I always laugh when people bring up visas overstayed, its a seperate issue from the wall, both need to be looked at tho

Considering the majority of illegals come in legally the wall is a waste of time and money. But go ahead and listen to the tweets of a mad man for your education. It will serve well.

A majority of people in Mexico that sneak over the border do it illegally.

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#37 Posted by Blackhairedhero (2538 posts) -

@Serraph105: Wanting to protect your boarders makes you a Xenophobic? Lmao!

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#38 Edited by Blackhairedhero (2538 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic:

"Considering the majority of illegals come in legally"

That may be the dumbest post of the decade.

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#39 Edited by jeezers (2096 posts) -

@dreman999: people that jump the border and people overstaying visas are seperate issues, nobody expects the wall to stop people from overtaying thier visas, its too reduce illegal crossings. There are multiple problems to fix with illegal immigration, no one expects the wall to fix every one of those issues. But they both need to be fixed.

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#40 Posted by mattbbpl (16468 posts) -

@blackhairedhero said:

@LJS9502_basic:

"Considering the majority of illegals come in legally"

That may be the dumbest post of the decade.

Except it's not. He's referring to the act of people overstaying their visas. Thus, they come in to the country illegally, overstay their visas, and then attain the status of illegal immigrants.

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#41 Edited by Blackhairedhero (2538 posts) -

@mattbbpl: with 0 data to back it up. I don't think they take a count on how many made it across the border.

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#42 Edited by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@blackhairedhero said:

@mattbbpl: with 0 data to back it up. I don't think they take a count on how many made it across the boarder.

Boarder? Damn is that dude still alive with everyone running him over?

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#43 Edited by LJS9502_basic (165762 posts) -

@blackhairedhero said:

@LJS9502_basic:

"Considering the majority of illegals come in legally"

That may be the dumbest post of the decade.

Overstaying visas mean you entered legally. I think yours wins the award for dumbest. Kudos.

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#44 Posted by phbz (3943 posts) -

You have a racist uncle at the wh, just deal with it and let him build the wall.

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#45 Posted by Blackhairedhero (2538 posts) -

@LJS9502_basic: Yet you have 0 evidence to back that up ya dunce!

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#46 Posted by nepu7supastar7 (4811 posts) -

@resevl4rlz:

I almost feel bad for him. ALMOST. But then I remember the xenophobic agenda he was trying to work for.

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#47 Posted by Zaryia (7001 posts) -
@horgen said:
@Jacanuk said:
@horgen said:

The wall won't do shit about everyone overstaying their visas.

True, but that can be dealt with much easier than people who come over the border.

Just have the whole police out looking for them?

Also the fact that,

THE FACTS: A wall can’t do much about that when drug trafficking is concentrated at land ports of entry, not remote stretches of the border.

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#49 Edited by Jacanuk (17446 posts) -

@jeezers said:

@Jacanuk: I always laugh when people bring up visas overstayed, its a seperate issue from the wall, both need to be looked at tho

Exactly it´s a separate issue, it´s not the same thing.

It´s like comparing theft too murder.

@LJS9502_basic said:

Way to miss the point..............I'm asking you. You're the one crying here for a wall.

What point?

Also if your point was that overstayers are a problem and somehow identical or bigger than the border then you are dead wrong.

Both are big problems and both need to be solved, Overstayers can be done with legislation and by better vetting people coming in and the border can be dealt with by a wall on some areas and more border patrols with the top of the notch tech gear.

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#50 Posted by dreman999 (11371 posts) -

@jeezers: they can go over and under. It's not going to stop anyone. There better way to do it then a wall.